There are eleven places in the Old Testament that the exact phrase “LORD, the God of Israel” appears.
To my mind it means Israel has its own God.
Which means the rest of us have a different God or no God at all.
That makes sense as the word “Our” is used to describe God in Genesis.
If the the Bible is written and inspired by the “LORD, the God of Israel”, it doesn’t apply to the rest of us does it? Or are we all members of the twelve tribes of Israel and don’t know it.
If we are members of the twelve tribes, who belongs to the tribe that raped and murdered the female concubine whose enraged owner cut up into twelve pieces?
If Jesus was on this world to complete a covenant with Israel and it’s God, it really has no bearing on us does it?
A thought for today 
Interesting perspective, Ichabod. It’s very, very Old Testament though.
It could easily be put forth that the New Testament was also the new rule and scope. It was at that point that Yahweh was willing to accept the Gentiles.
As for which of the tribes of Man are the descendants of the tribe that raped and murdered the female concubine whose enraged owner cut up into twelve pieces – it’s Arabs of course. They’re still doing it to this day.
Hi jonolan;
After reading the news lately I would be inclined to agree with you about those who have religious police and stone young women just for following their hearts.:)
If Jesus was the new scope, then the Old Testament should not be included in the Bible as it only serves to confuse.
Jesus’s commandments were slightly different than the original ten.
He said to love God and thy Neighbor.
In the original Ten, I do not believe there is anything in there about loving thy Neighbor.
However I do see some influence of Old Testament in the New in respect to Jesus, but I attribute that to overzealous scribes and hypocrites
Oh Ich, you are wrong in so many ways. But at least you admit it up front when you say, “to my mind.” God never instructs us to draw conclusions of Him based on what we think.
You err when you separate the Old Testament from the New. In the Old Testament the New is concealed; in the New Testament the Old is revealed. EVERYTHING in the OT is meant to point us to Jesus. God does not have one tribe or nation as His own, but counts everyone who calls Him Lord and Savior as His people. This is brought out in 1 Peter 2:9-10. “But you are a chosen people a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light. Once you were not a people, but now you are the people of God; once you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy.”
The One God who chose to show Himself primarily to the nation of Israel has sent His Son to die for the entire world, so that whoever calls upon Him will be saved. There is only one God; all other gods are not God.
As to attributing some influence of the OT upon the NT to scribes and hypocrites, I think you’re simply looking for an argument. Anyone of your obvious intelligence who has not done a thorough study of the history and origin of Scripture has only himself to blame if they do not understand the unity of Scripture as a whole.
However, I don’t think you’re being ignorant, just pugnacious. And for that, I salute you.
Hi Jim;
This pugnacious mind of mine thanks you
Seriously, you are a man of intelligence and have studied this to great detail and I admire your conclusions.
However, it is my feeling that the Man from Galilee is much misunderstood in this world.
I also know of many who do not have the capacity to understand the complexities of the written word.
The Universe and its laws are relatively simple. Science has determined that the base building components of all life is reduced to one or a few common components.
I think God did not require this complexity.
For for those who realize a God created this world and loving and appreciating the gift for what it is and loving God, which provided it. I refer to this gift as life itself.
When asked about these things Jesus and the Preacher were in agreement. God is the Creator and should be revered as such. Follow the Commandments and Love thy neighbor.
To my simple way of thinking that makes sense.
Jesus spoke to the masses, many which were ignorant.
He spoke to them in terms they could understand, even the mentally challenged.
The message was simple in respect to how we should live.
He demonstrated this by his works, which were of compassion and love.
His words cut through the dogma that was and made it irrelevant.
He was hated for that.
They murdered him for that.
The Jews originally were Pagans, as all tribes emerging from the Pan-Arabian Pantheon did. It was much later in their history that monotheism sprang to the fore. Yahweh conquered the many.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/14048255/The-Pagan-Origins-of-Judaism
Following “our” own image have we created man.
Well…..if God just happens to be anything at all like the God in the Old Testament…
I am VERY thankful I’m not one of his peeps! And I wish them and their very angry, wrathful, vengeful, childish God much, much luck with that!
It is the sure sign of the death of a religion when its mythic presuppositions become systematized, under the sever, rational eyes of an orthodox dogmatism, into a ready sum of historical events, and when people begin timidly defending the veracity of myth but at the same time resist its natural continuance—when the feeling for myth withers and its place is taken by a religion claiming historical foundations.
Nietzsche, The Birth of Tragedy
It’s a bit funny that the NT (an updated holy book) was originally meant for the Jews (the chosen people and therefore the most important of God’s subjects surely), taught to the masss in Palestine by a Jew in their own language, Aramaic, yet they didn’t take Jesus on board and accept his revised ‘religion’!
As far as we now he wasn’t aiming to start up a new creed just make the existing one easier to understand – put it in simple terms for the people.
So he ultimately failed cos even though the NT and the gospels were compliled and exported to Europe and elsewhere the peole they were destined for have dismissed Christianity and they’re still waiting for their Messiah..
I wonder if Jews ever doubt this and reflect that maybe they made a glaring error? Cos if Jesus was the Messiah, then they’re in for a long wait.
Not only do they risk losing their holy land (that they consider God-given)if the Arabs get their act together, but if they were wrong on Jesus then they ain’t going to heaven either having missed their saviour too..
A rock and a hard place..
The answer to your question can be found in the Bible:
“Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:” (Romans 3:29)
“And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.” (1 Timothy 3:16)